Snp 5.9 - Sn 5:9 Todeyya’s Questions
Translated by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu
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5:9 Todeyya’s Questions

One in whom
no sensualities dwell;
in whom
no craving is found;
who has crossed over perplexity—
  his emancipation:
  What is it like?

The Buddha:
One in whom
no sensualities dwell;
in whom
no craving is found;
who has crossed over perplexity—
  his emancipation
  is not other than that.1

Todeyya:
Is he without desire,
or desiring?
Discerning or
still acquiring discernment?
Describe the sage to me, Sakyan,
All-around Eye,
so that I may recognize
what he is like.

The Buddha:
He’s without desire,
  not desiring;
discerning,
not still acquiring discernment.
Recognize the sage, Todeyya,
as having nothing,
unentangled
  in sensuality
      & becoming.

vv. 1088–1091

Note

1. Nd IIA: The ending of craving is, in and of itself, emancipation. See SN 43.